Yep. What a coincidence! Felicity's original comment (to the previous post "Why the Cabeceo is important) is in black, and my responses are in blue:
Hi Irene,
"It is always BETTER to dance with someone who is willing to dance with me
than someone who isn't."
Agreed: why would anyone want to dance with someone unless they also want to?
Comparing notes, my reasons for not dancing with (any) guys this weekend:
1. Couldn't see good dancers
Agreed. Getting rare
in Toronto too. Toronto full of hot
headed flingers. However have still a
handful of leaders I still enjoy dancing with.
I am often tempted to pray (with incense and crispy BBQ pork offerings - actually, doing complete opposite of the evil eye ritual) that they do show up at milonga but realize that praying is completely useless due to my low dance popularity quotient.
2. I like dancing with the guy but he just danced with someone I can't bear and
so is contaminated (at least for that day). This is a fairly new one on me. It
surprised me too!
Actually this happens to me after Man Yung danced with someone who forgot deodorant
or has a problem that deodorant cannot fix.
I have to get him to change before I can dance with him. Otherwise the urge to vomit will override
ability to follow. Man Yung either has nasal blockage or likes B.O. of strangers does not understand about the fuss I am making.
I have also been put off by the smell of green peppers
that attached itself to a leader I like to dance with from a follower I
dislike. Go figure.
3. I really like dancing with the (visiting) guy I've known for years but he
has been sending confusing messages during the last year at the two milongas
where we last met. I don't know where I stand so I won't look or say anything
about dancing even though we're sitting next to one another and (finally)
talking again...
I’m a straightforward person, I don’t understand leaders
who send out confusing messages either.
I prefer to dance with someone who is as consistently eager to dance with me as I am with him. Not BS "Oh I LOVE dancing with you!" and then when there are other "more preferred" followers in the room he forgets to cabeceo or even say hello.
If he is "hot and cold" he better be some hot stuff in Tango. No wait - EVEN IF he is some hot stuff he can go stuff it. I'm too old for this game playing s***.
Reasons for not dancing much with women this weekend:
- At two of the milongas: no space / chaos. Space alone wouldn't necessarily be
an issue if it weren't for the snails-pace ronda and dangerous floorcraft.
Couples were dancing for themselves, not aware of the couples around them. Or
were but didn't care, or couldn't dance well enough to manage. I was prevented
from moving, was bashed many times, squeezed, tailgated and cut up by guys. I
was kicked and scraped by the slim, well-dressed woman several people tried to
tell me was a good dancer.
Luckily have not had too much bad luck or accidents while
leading on crowded and crazy floors. I
have feeling guys in Toronto are more considerate to women leaders, well, at least to
me. They don’t generally bash into me
and my partner unless by pure accident, I have a feeling they have their eye
out for not bashing. Actually, apart from one or two
really rotten apples, leaders on a whole in Toronto have become more considerate
on the dance floor in the past year.
However, that being said, I think we have the twin of the slim well dressed woman "so called good dancer" here in
town. Or perhaps it is the same woman? She has the longest legs and most honking
huge feet with stilettos the size of machetes on said feet. She also flails and kicks highest with the
most abandon. Frenetic displays of reckless high kicking signal "I'm a good dancer", like how red and blue bottoms on Mandrill monkeys means "YEAH BABY! Sizzling white HOT!"? What is this (tango) world coming to. Milonga organizer had to
announce “Keep heels on the floor” but the rockette apparently is deaf because
she was still slashing her heels up and down for hours after that announcement.
Other cavorting, spinning and leaping Mandrill monkeys on the dance floor were noticeably excited by her tango courtship display.
Hot Stuff
- Couldn't see dancers I like
Sad. See above re: lack of good dancers. Sometimes good dancers were (deliberately?) hiding behind not so good dancers I was trying not to cabeceo. Sad x 2. See above re: confusing hot and cold. Not so good dancers I was trying not to cabeceo may be going "wtf?" too re: my cabeceo/not cabeceo (sorry, it was for the person BEHIND you)
- Poor music. B or C sides of famous orchestras. Orquesta tipica Maglio.
OMG this CONFIRMS we were at the same milongas. A DJ played Maglio (and equivalent) all friggin’
night too.
- I'm not convinced enough she wants to dance with me to want to risk a clear
look (from my seat).
Yep, I’ve had ladies say they want to dance and then not
even try to cabeceo. Talk about ambivalence. This has been
ongoing for a few weeks now.
- That quiet, good-dancing girl I like isn't looking my way. She refused /
avoided me once. I won't invite her again unless she makes it really clear that
she wants to dance.
You and I, we must be trying to dance with the same girl. Sometimes I think she just wants to dance with her favourite guy
leaders, or doesn’t want to dance with a girl in front of certain guy leaders
who would scoff at women dancing with women. That’s ok.
I'm the same: My best lady friends in tango know that I'm not available for leading if my favourite guy leaders are available.
- She could be looking but I don't want to dance milonga / vals / this
particular tango tanda.
Actually, I’m pretty much up for anything at this point. Have heard so much Maglio had to make decision: either dance to the friggin' Maglio, or not dance at all and waste $15 entrada.
PS:
I danced 6 tandas over three milongas this weekend. All with women. Good music
is always a pre-requisite but curiously, the reasons one does dance are not
necessarily the converse of why one doesn't dance:
1. We smiled as she came in and she sat next to me. She was a nice person and
turned out to be a good dancer.
That's lovely :-)
2 & 3 An experienced lady told a woman or women I didn't know near me in my
hearing that I was a good dancer and she should dance with me. So I risked
inviting one and later the other.
Solid dance reputation being built this way. It's great! I hope that I'm getting positive reviews too. Rather than people whispering "OMG avoid her she sucks" :-(
4 A woman who looked familiar reminded me as she arrived that we'd danced in
Cambridge
5. A good dancer I didn't know sought me out with her eyes
You are better at the cabeceo than I am. I still have to engage in conversation with ladies at beginning of the evening about willingness to dance later and THEN cabeceo to seal the deal later.
6. A woman I've seen dancing well for years I thought had looked my way some
time last year but I hadn't liked the music at the time. I invited her this
time.
Thanks for taking the time to comment Felicity! I hope we will really meet one day at the same milonga and we can cabeceo each other for sure :-)
